Barefootguru

Kia ora, ko koe te mātāmuri o ngā kaimahi kua rēhita e 74!

Nau mai, haere mai!

Nau mai, haere mai ki te Wikipedia Māori!

Uea ki a Ranginui e tū iho nei, Uea ki a Papatuanuku e takoto ake nei. Uhi! wero! haramai te toki! Haumi e! hui e! Tāiki e!

Tēnā koe Barefootguru!

Nau mai, haere mai, whakatau mai ki te Wikipedia Māori! Tēnei te tuku atu nei i tā tātou mātāpunenga kia tirotirohia e te katoa. Kei konei ia - ōna piki, me ōna heke, ōna tika me ōna hē - hei tango mā te tangata. Kia ora rawa atu koe mō āu mahi i konei. Ko te tumanako, ka pai ki a koe tēnei paetukutuku. Tēnā koa, tirohia ngā tikanga o tēnei Wikipedia me ngā whakamārama mō te mahi whakatika. He whakamārama atu anō ki Hau Kāinga, ki Tomokanga hapori. Hei tuku mai i ōu pātai, ōu whakaaro rānei, haere ki Kōrero.

He maramara atu anō

Tēnā koa, hainatia āu mahi i runga i ngā whārangi kōrerorero ki ngā tohu ngaru e whā, kia pēnei: (~~~~); kia puta mārama ai tō ingoa, me te rā i tuhituhi ai koe.
Hei wāhi parakitihi i ngā mahi whakatika, haere ki te Papa tākaro.

He whakamārama anō ki te Wikipedia Reo Pākehā

Mō ngā tino tikanga a te Wikipedia (he reo Pākehā), titiro ki The Five Pillars of Wikipedia, ki What Wikipedia is not hoki.

Nō reira, kia kaha, kia māia, kia manawanui!

Hey, that emdash that looks like an emdash (and not a row of garbage) is impressive; how did you manage it?

Robin Patterson 6 July 2005 11:25 (UTC)

Kia ora Robin, thanks for the welcome.

Not sure I'll be in here much, I only have a very basic understanding of Māori, but will see how I go…

What's the protocol for replying to talk—in here or on your page?

Thanks for the feedback, glad somebody appreciates my pedantry! On my Mac it's just option-shift-dash. The main Wikipedia includes an em-dash in its editing template, maybe you should add one here?

Cheers

Barefootguru 8 July 2005 07:18 (UTC)

Kōrero and related pages or subjects

Generally I talk to a person on his or her talk page, one good reason being that he or she will then get a "You have new messages" message; but if it's in reply to something said on my page I usually summarise it before answering (so that he or she remembers --- out of all the other things contributed since --- and so that anyone else reading the page will have some idea what I'm on about).

In this case, I've hinted at it in the heading. Now your pedantry may have let you down a bit: "Kōrero" in fact redirects to Wikipedia:Körero, which is a different animal from Körero, and is our Village Pump or Coffee Bar. The Wikipedia prefix means it's in the Wikipedia (generically known as "project") namespace, not the "main" article namespace. The redirection was related to our early days, when there was a bit of korero about what we should call our chat page. Initially it was Kōrero, I think, but one of the experts said something like what I've just said, that it shouldn't be in the article namespace because that's reserved for encyclopaedic content, not for discussion and tutorials about how to create content. The umlaut remains because nobody could be bothered changing it (and because some browsers still show all 10 possible macronned letters as uniform rectangles, so I'm not in a hurry to macronise).

Now that all the people who might have looked for Kōrero thinking that it was still the chat page have forgotten, we could quite properly let Kōrero claim its rightful place as an article - but my "reo" isn't up to writing encyclopaedic articles about intangibles, and your "basic understanding of Māori" is possibly no better. So when we find that elusive fluent Maori contributor we can encourage him or her to convert that redirect to an article before going on to hard stuff like kawanatanga, marae, and takutai.

Meantime, I hope you can find a variety of useful things to do. Plenty of models about, for some of the stuff that makes a lot of use of lists and headings (possibly too much at present!) and can therefore be reused with only a few word-changes (which a dictionary can fill in for you with no need to have any idea of grammar or syntax), for another whateveritis of the same sort, eg a town or a poet or a year. I've created some model pages for people and places, currently sitting in my "en:" area but being moved over here. I'll have them all under Wikipedia:Tauira before long. Links from my Userpage, which is worth lots of study for someone who's a bit new. You're more than welcome to copy any of it to your userpage for instant reference.

I'm fairly proficient at calendar stuff now (here and in a few other languages, eg :sm:2004), so you might look at taone (taking inspiration from our Galicia contributors - or helping them as I have) or tangata (eg kaitito) or iwi.

Now that's probably more reply than you wanted; and you can see that it's past my proper bedtime even for a Friday; so I'll stop there for now.

Kia ora! Robin Patterson 8 July 2005 12:22 (UTC)

Tūmanako

Nō te mea kua tae ngā tuhipānui ki te 600, ko te tūmanako kia tae mai ngā tāngata matatau ki te reo Māori o Aotearoa nei, mā tātou e whakapai te mātāpunenga nei i runga i ngā tikanga whakapai, kia tupu ake hei rākau whakaruruhau, hei Tōtara, hei Kauri rānei i te wao-nui-a-Tāne. Tēnā, whakaputaina ō whakaaro ki Wikipedia:Kōrero. Nō reira, tēnā tātou katoa Kahuroa 04:50, 13 Poutū-te-rangi 2007 (UTC)

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